Pokémon Began Selling Two Versions of Each Game To Try and Beat Mario, Nintendo’s Shigeru Miyamoto Says

From Red and Blue to Scarlet and Violet, Pokémon is known for often launching its games with two different versions — and now, Nintendo’s Shigeru Miyamoto has discussed one of the reasons why: to try and rival the sales of his own creation, Super Mario.

Since its inception on the Game Boy, Pokémon has typically released its mainline games twice, ensuring diehard fans pay double to own both varieties. Over the years, the decision has proven lucrative — and, of course, that was the plan all along.

Speaking during an investor Q&A meeting this week, in response to a question about whether Mario Kart’s enormous sales could ever be lapped, Nintendo legend Shigeru Miyamoto said he’d once spoken to Pokémon creator Satoshi Tajiri and heard his plan to beat Mario.

“A long time ago, before creating the first Pokémon game, Satoshi Tajiri, the director of Pokémon, joked with me that to surpass Nintendo’s Mario he’d have to sell two copies of the game to each consumer,” Miyamoto revealed.

“That is one reason why Pokémon started with both Pokémon Red and Pokémon Blue,” he continued. “I believe that new ideas are born precisely because of people like him, who challenge themselves to surpass what came before.”

In the past, official discussion of why Pokémon frequently arrives in two flavors has centered on the possibilities for player interaction this opens up. Each Pokémon version traditionally offers a different set of creatures to collect, encouraging players to meet and trade. More recent Pokémon games have also offered minor story differences between versions, tempting fans to play both games for the full experience. And, frequently, Nintendo has sold double packs of the two versions together, sometimes at a slight discount.

As for whether any game could ever actually beat Mario Kart — and specifically, the enormous sales of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Switch 1 — Miyamoto was coy.

“If some Nintendo IP or innovation is widely accepted by consumers as something new and never before seen, the numbers could potentially reach beyond the boundaries of entertainment,” he suggested. “One thing that is interesting about Nintendo is that it’s okay to try anything.

“On the other hand, even if something like that happens, Mario Kart would probably continue to sell well in that undertaking as well, so it may never be surpassed!”

Last month saw the launch of Pokémon Legends: Z-A, the series’ latest spin-off that features a menagerie of new Mega Evolutions. Fans widely expect next year — the 30th anniversary of the Pokémon brand — to host the next mainline Pokémon games: the series’ 10th generation of titles. And yes, recently-leaked information suggested these would also be sold in two different versions.

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